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Podcast – Impromptu Debate on Man-Made Law and the Constitution

by The Lancaster Patriot Staff
August 24, 2023
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What started out as a discussion about local farmer Reuben King and gun regulations quickly morphed into an impromptu, friendly debate about man-made law, the U.S. Constitution, and biblical law. Do we need more laws (or codes) than the ones that God has given us in the Bible? Or do we simply need righteous judges to apply God’s law and adjudicate between disputants? Travis Schmalhofer, Joel Saint, and Chris Hume address these topics on this episode of The Lancaster Patriot Podcast.

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  1. Harry Neely says:
    2 weeks ago

    A few comments on the first 16 minutes of the discussion.

    A living man should never say he “understands” the charges because the question is actually asking him if he is a “person” that stands UNDER the provisions of the, in this case, the regulations promulgated under the Firearms Act on which the charges are based.

    Understanding – This is a loose and ambiguous term UNLESS it is accompanied by some EXPRESSION to show that it constituted a meeting of the minds of parties upon something respecting which they intended to be BOUND. Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th. Edition.

    When you state that you “understand” the charges you are EXPRESSING that you are in agreement with the one bringing the charges and that you are a “person” in the “class of persons” that are subject to that particular provision of some code and that you intend to be BOUND to obey that provision of the code that you have been accused of having violated or pay the penalty for violating that provision.

    “One is not present unless he UNDERSTANDS.” Maxim

    According to this Maxim until a man expresses that he UNDERSTANDS the charges he is considered to not even be present in the proceeding in court.

    One could simply state that he was an “Idiota”

    Idiota – In the civil law, an unlearned, illiterate, or simple PERSON. Also a PRIVATE MAN; one not in office. “Citizenship” is an office according to former President Obama.

    See the term “person” compared to the word “man” in this definition. Are you a person or are you a man?

    There is a clear difference between a law and a provision of some code that only ACQUIRES the force and effect of law as it pertains to men who have by some act expressed that they are “persons” in the “class of persons” subject to the provisions of a particular code. So a provision of some code is not itself “law” but it does ACQUIRE and has the “force and effect” of law on “persons” in the “class of person” who have EXPRESSED that they agree to STAND UNDER the provisions of that particular code as a person liable.

    It is my “understanding” that one who does not “understand” cannot be convicted. All men are supposed to know the law but these codes are not actually the law and they only acquire the “force and effect” of the law as they relate to the “class of persons” who by some act express and agree to be BOUND by the provision of that code. Codes do not pertain to living men and women, only to “persons.” Read the Firearms Act and define the term “person” and you will see that this “person” is a fictitious entity or “artificial person.”

    Entity – An existence APART, such as a corporation in relation to its stockholders. Entity includes person, estate, trust, and governmental unit. Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th. Edition.

    If you are a “man” and do not have an existence apart then you are not a “person” and these statutes and regulations do not pertain to you UNLESS you voluntarily submit yourself to the control of the government as a person.

    Person – In general usage, a HUMAN BEING (i.e. a NATURAL person), though by statute term may include a firm, labor organizations, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, trustees, trustees in bankruptcy, or receivers. Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th. Edition.

    When you EXPRESS that you understand the charges you have CONFESSED to be a “person” – i.e. a NATURAL person aka a HUMAN BEING to which that provision of the code pertains.

    Are God’s people after being born anew referred to as being “natural men” or are they referred to as being “spiritual men” of God? Does the Law of God ever refer to God’s people as being “human beings” or natural persons?

    If a “person” is a “natural person” or “human being”‘ then how does Black’s Law Dictionary define these terms? We cannot KNOW what a “person” is until we KNOW what a “natural person” or “human being” is, can we?

    You may be surprised to learn that Black’s Law Dictionary does not define the terms “human,” “being,” or “human being.” Isn’t that odd? Black’s Law Dictionary tells us that a “person” is a “human being” but then fails to define for us what a “human being” is. Are we to guess?

    Human – A bipedal primate mammal (Homo sapiens). MAN; broadly any living or extinct member of the family (Hominidae) to which the primate belongs. Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, New World Edition 1998

    Primate – any of an order of mammals comprising humans, apes, monkeys, and related forms (such as lemurs and tarsiers). – Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, New World Edition 1998

    Man – Humankind – Also termed mankind. A human being. Historically A vassal; or a feudal tenant.

    God’s people are not “human beings” or primates are they?

    Human being – a NATURAL man; unenlightened or unregenerate.,” Random House Dictionary of the English Language, 2nd. Edition.

    And on page 1461 of this same dictionary the word “unregenerate” is defined to mean “not regenerate; unrepentant; an unregenerate sinner; not convinced by or unconverted to a particular religion; wicked, sinful, dissolute.”

    A “human being” is a “natural man” and a “natural man” is a “human being” but God’s people are not natural men or natural women.

    “But the NATURAL MAN receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he KNOW them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? BUT WE HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST. I Cor. 2:14

    Our duty is to call the nations (i.e. the unregenerate people in the nations, not their government) to be reconciled to God, to come out and be separate from the secular political community, and to come into and under the perfect Law of Liberty in the Kingdom of Heaven knowing that in so doing the government placed on Christ’s shoulders will be advanced. And, we know that there will be no end to the advancement of His government. Therefore, to the degree that His government advances to the same degree the influence and jurisdiction of the secular government will be diminished.

    Equal protection of the laws in Amendment 14 is guaranteed “But of course, most laws [i.e. regulations] differentiate in some fashion between CLASSES OF PERSONS. The Equal Protection Clause does not forbid CLASSIFICATION. It simply keeps governmental decision-makers from treating differently PERSONS who are in all relevant respects alike. F.S. Royster Guano Co. v. Virginia 253 U.S. 412, 415 (1920)

    “The NATURAL MAN is a spiritual monster. His heart is there where his feet should be, fixed upon the earth; his heels are lifted up against heaven, which his heart should be set on. His face is towards hell; his back towards heaven. He loves what he should hate, and hates what he should love; joys in what he ought to mourn for, and mourns for what he ought to rejoice in; glories in his shame, and is ashamed of his glory; abhors what he should desire, and desires what he should abhor.” Thomas Boston 1677 – 1732

    In Balantine’s Self Pronouncing Law Dictionary, 1948 page 389 the term “human being” is defined as “See Monster.”

    “Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that are defiled and UNBELIEVING is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they KNOW God, but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work REPROBATE.” Titus 1: 15-16

    The natural man/natural person/human being is a reprobate monster and our attempt to have these reprobate monsters receive the things of the Spirit – God’s Law – as the basis of their secular humanistic municipal law is simply impossible for such an idea would be and is foolishness to them.

    Remember, civil law or municipal law does not pertain to God’s people unless they voluntarily submit themselves to the absolute control of such a form of government by becoming or claiming to be an Amendment 14 federal citizen of the United States federal government or claim to have their domicile or permanent home in some place on the earth.

    Our citizenship is in heaven and we are members of the household of God and our domicile or permanent home is in His house in the heavenly city whose foundations and builder is God. Upon our regeneration, we are no longer citizens of the United States but rather sojourning strangers seeking a better country a heavenly country.

    Federal citizens owe allegiance and fidelity to the United States federal government. God’s people owe their allegiance and fidelity to the King of kings and LORD of lords, not to a federal corporation.

    God’s people are being destroyed today for lack of knowledge because they have rejected the truth. God’s people for the most part have no idea what the terms I have defined above mean and what their true “standing” is in relation to the civil government and the unregenerate people in the political community. Citizens are MEMBERS of a political community.

    Please correct any errors I may have made in any of the above comments.

    Peace

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